Out in the cold: Students refused entry to DCU Ball
November 2008
The College View
By Cian Ginty
A number of students have complained about ID requirements for the DCU Halloween Ball, although the Student Union says the need for ID was advertised sufficiently.
The Students’ Union highlighted that the need for state ID was publicised on tickets and posters for the event.
However, a number of complaints were received by the College View from students who were not aware that DCU ID cards alone would not be accepted.
“I assumed DCU ID would be ok as I’ve never used anything else at a DCU ball but the guys on the door wouldn’t even look at it and were trying to turn me away. In the end all I had to do was tell them my age (23) and one guy said ‘go on then, bring ID next time’,” said one student.
The SU also received student complaints but said the number of them was “tiny” in relation to the total 1,600 tickets sold for the event which was held in the Academy in the city centre.
“The day after the ball we had a few complaints which is understandable if people were disappointed. However, compared to the amount of tickets sold the number of complaints was tiny,” said DCUSU Niall McClave.
He pointed out that apart from being stated on tickets, ID is a legal obligation that people should be aware of.
“The requirement for ID was on the ticket and on the posters. We sold 1,600 tickets for that night and had 1,570 people through the door. That’s a pretty normal rate of no-shows that we would have at any ball, even if there had been no ID problems, so I think the message got out there to most people,” he said.
“Besides, having ID is not a requirement of the Union or of the Academy, it’s a legal requirement and people should know this.”
DCU have issued redesigned identity cards with advanced security features to this year’s first year students.
The SU confirmed that although the new ID cards do not display any date of birth, a yellow strip indicates if the bearer is under 18 years.
They also said that the university will be issuing more of these cards in the coming years.
Previously, a student’s date of birth was printed on their ID card if they became a member of the college bar, but all students automatically become members now.
McClave said that he does not see the need to advertise entry requirements better for future events.
He said: “I feel our advertising of the ID requirements was adequate and was the same as any other event ever held off campus, for some reason this event seemed to throw up trouble we’ve never had before but we put the requirement on both the tickets and the posters.
“People wouldn’t expect to show up at any nightclub in town without proper ID and get in, the same laws apply to our events.”
The SU President added that while off-campus events would not become a norm for DCU, their purpose is to also cater for students who do not live on campus.
He said: “We hold at least one ball a year off campus, at most we will hold one a semester off campus. The events off campus cater for a whole raft of DCU students that don’t live on or near the campus.
“We tend to have a completely different crowd at the events off campus and we do this to cater for them.”
Abuse of DCU mailing lists is worse than spam
Monday, June 29th, 2009Abuse of DCU mailing lists is worse than spam
March 2009
The College View
By Cian Ginty
The phrases “sorry to people this does not concern” and “apologies to those for whom this is of no concern” probably sound familiar to DCU students and staff.
Under Irish spam laws the sender of such messages could be opening themselves up to fines of up to €5,000 if treated as a less serious offence.
When treated as a criminal offence, this amount jumps to a maximum of €50,000 for an individual and up to €250,000 for corporate bodies.
Sending unwanted emails over DCU’s mailing list system, however, seems to be a grey area that is outside the law. Or, at least, it’s untested in court.
At the time of writing, the Data Protection Commission was unsure if spam laws apply to email sent within the system. Companies who send unsolicited emails are the main target of spam legislation.
Sending spam is ruled in the DCU code of conduct for use of computer resources. It says: “It is prohibited to… send or forward chain letters, junk mail, spam and viruses.”
But if the definition of spam used in law was applied then there is a serious lack of reporting and enforcement of the anti-spam policy.
The mailing list system is invaluable, that’s exactly why it should be treated with respect. Class lists should be restricted, automatically or in written and enforced rules. The main function should be for sending mail to the class, directly related to the same.
Clubs and societies – including the College View – should be limited to one email per week to the class and other mass lists. Or maybe even less? There are separate mailing lists for these, so why do a club or soc need to annoy people who have shown no interest in their group?
The same goes for emails to the undergraduate and post graduate lists. Why are religious and campaigning emails being sent to people with little interest in such? It is nonsense that a scatter gun approach is used for emails which most students don’t want. It’s unsolicited email. It’s spam.
No, it’s not central to people’s education, or social life, or health etc. Corporation spammers could use the same excuses. By having large volumes of unwanted email in their inboxes, it’s more likely students will miss or accidentally delete important emails.
The societies’ mailing list set-up is a good one. It’s pretty much spot on for what the law allows companies to do. People sign up and then they get updates.
Why can’t this be used as a rule for the vast majority of emails sent out? Then there’s no need for meaningless notes like “apologies to those for whom this is of no concern”.
Some of the emails sent using the mailing list system – although in the minority – are very much like marketing messages from companies, and that’s maybe something the Data Protection Commissioner could look into.
A spokesman from the office said: “In relation to the sending of marketing messages promoting commercial products, companies can only send you direct marketing if there is an existing relationship between the company and the recipient and the product / service being marketed is of a similar nature.”
By enforcing stricter rules now, such a move could stem the need for expensive cases that state agencies would need to take against future spammers.
At least marketing spam is illegal, but, for now, DCU students suffer with spam clogging their inboxes, wasting their time and energy.
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